Bet 42
That by 2024 "artificial" life emerging somewhere out of the soup of human technology will be given a Latin taxonomic name by biologists and others and declared viable for study.
Prediction 42
Duration 22 years (02002-02024)
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Bruce F. Damer
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If life is evolving code in interplay with its environment, then the increasingly complex technological code in Cyberspace, Robotspace, or Devicespace might be seen as akin to a prototype living system evolving within the human environment.
Hogwash! You may say, “Our technology is all built and maintained by people, and everything there is therefore artificial.” You might also follow up with the challenge: is a computer virus really alive? We might ask in return: is a flu virus really alive? Where does the machine end and the living form start? Is life simply a level of complexity so that once the system becomes opaque and unpredictable enough it is alive? Is life the ability of any entity to effect self repairs or self reproduction? Is life about populations in a dynamic dance within an ecosystem?
Would the skeptics be convinced if the Yes camp came up with compelling examples of "made" environments exhibiting lifelike properties? Of course, how you define lifelike is very much an open issue. We believe however that despite all this, eager engineers, like the alchemists of old, would quit their day jobs to labor on winning this bet. They would say: it may be really tough to define consciousness or master the vagaries of natural language and cognition to pass the Turing test (see Mitch Kapor and Ray Kurzweil's bet [2]), but with 22 years and Moore's Law on our side, surely we can recreate a cell in silico, or yea, even successfully code up a slime mold! Isn't life in the small just a bunch of squishy machines running chemical algorithms? The nerds would conclude, “This will be a piece of cake!”
Detractors might then retort that software is much too brittle to represent the complex actions of genes or proteins and Cyberspace or any other technospace is much too incomplete and impoverished an environment to stimulate authentic evolution. Other critics might cast out the whole enterprise as being nothing more than game like simulations of trivial cases of authentic living systems.
But what if, one day, something completely unpredictable began to happen in our networks? What if the emergent properties within some piece of technology just piled up high enough that we were confounded to explain a behavior? Would this then be a kind of “first contact”? Or would we be fooled yet again by glitches gone wild and woolly? Yes, reboot that server, stop that daemon, unplug that device, and the phenomenon goes away. But what if it returns somewhere else in a slightly improved form (without a hacker somewhere making the changes)? Is this happening already? Will it happen even if we don’t try to create it?
What does this all mean?
If you sense a kernel of truth in all this, you might ask: “So what does this all mean?” Life seems to have progressed over 4 billion years through a series of steps to ever-higher energy and complexity states. Why should we doubt that life intends to penetrate into further frontiers even using us as a surrogate? Dawkins' selfish genes might express a planetary-strength will to reproduce whole biospheres (a la Dorian Sagan) thereby getting all the proverbial eggs out of one basket. The Earth is a tomb for life the day the sun starts to fuse helium.
Blind watchmaking or not, the products of evolution are highly innovative and human intelligence may be handing the ultimate survival invention to Earth life: the coding of living systems, their replication and travel through space free of the limits of mass, molecules and chemical reactions.
Or in other words, it is much easier to escape the Earth's gravity well if your blueprints don’t weigh anything. As Freeman Dyson’s open bet [3] posits, life might be found on the small chunks of ice and rock surrounding our solar systems. The surface area of these small objects vastly exceeds any planetary real estate. If some form of Earth life is to get a foothold here, it would have to be fleet of foot and able to overcome the separation of a trillion trillion islands tumbling in a hard vacuum.
Human beings and almost any other Earth life bigger than a bacterium are unsuited for such places. So the future shape of successful life outside the biosphere may necessarily be some weird techno-biological hybrid. Crude early examples of this model at work include the crippled Galieo Jupiter spacecraft, which obtained a new “brain” (and way of seeing) beamed to it as software code en route to the Jovian system.
A greater meaning for this bet?
So what is the meaning of this bet? Is it simply a challenge to get the "A" out of "A-Life" or something much larger? Is it a challenge to humanity to recognize that it can be a conscious and willing partner in the next step on the long journey of Terran life?
And where in all this fits human intelligence and our species? Dawkins also tantalizes us with concepts of memes, ideas as life forms reproducing from mind to mind. Information technology serves humans as a cultivator of memes. It might be fair to speculate that out of our will to open new pathways for life new forms would emerge that are both memetic and genetic in nature, coexisting with human minds at home and out there in the universe.
Getting down off this soapbox of out-there theories, we invite input and discussion from the skeptics, fence sitters, and the Yes and No camps alike. Being realistic, even with 22 years to go, winning this bet would be a marathon effort, but why keep the biosphere waiting?
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That by 2024 "artificial" life emerging somewhere out of the soup of human technology will be given a Latin taxonomic name by biologists and others and declared viable for study.
Suppose I build an extremely detailed computer model of a real-world bacteria and devise some suitably complex simulated environment for it to live in. I run my bacterial simulation for the virtual equivalent of hundreds of thousands of years, and at the end of that time I take the genetic code of the evolved virtual bacteria and use it to produce a brand new strain of real-world bacteria. If the original bacteria and my new virtually-evolved bacteria are both alive, does that imply that the intermediate virtual bacteria were also alive?
Or, to generalize, if I can simulate actual life in sufficient detail that both my simulation and actual life produce the same results over time (in this example, the evolution of a new type of actual life), in what way is my simulation less alive than the real thing?
-Austin Appleby
Now this is a *very* good question! Presumably the total environment of the single celled organism realized in simulation would have to be completely reproduced to allow identical behavior. Would the entire life cycle have to be executable in code? Would mitosis and death be part of this virtual petri dish? I feel that in the quest to meet or defeat this bet, we could never treat an organism isolated from its environment(a mistake made by AI so many years ago). This begs the question of where do boundaries lie for enviroments? If you are having to simulate an entire (albeit simple) biosphere, how far do you have to go to achieve a "complete" system? This plays into some of the current ideas/debates over "strong Panspermia" (see www.panspermia.org); IE, can you observe bona fide evolution in a closed system, or is evolution tied in strongly to the interactions with the cosmos (are bacteria or at least their building blocks raining down from the heavens)?
Is this way off topic? I am not sure I addressed the previous poster's question, anyone else game for that? The great thing about this topic is the questions it generates!
The way it is phrased now is more of a sociological question. Will the fact be accepted by the scientific community enough to give it a taxonomic name? You are stacking the dice against yourself. The real question is about the definition of life. There is already software today that is much more complicated than things deemed alive. I think the reason they won't be accepted as life is the simple fact that for such things to exist, a huge tower of infrastructure and technology has to be developed and maintained to support this artificial "life". Not so for bacteria and viruses, they exist not at the whim of mankind but in spite of them in many cases.
Maybe you should narrow the scope and bet whether or not such unlooked for a-life develops on our networks, and leave out the question of definition altogether.
I don't think it's going to take that long. Recently a virus was built from scratch. One could argue that viruses are not alive. But they are built out of the same stuff as life, and are not all that much less complex than what is probably the simplest possible self-reproducing form. It has been fascinating to watch as computer systems theory developed and then drove biology. Even Crick and Watson thought of DNA as the "punched tape" of life. Current theorists think that one might produce a simple organism with only a few hundred genes if designed from scratch with the (low cost to the organism but unnecessarily complex) evolutionary baggage left out. I currently have a version of this bet going with my Mother, who doesn't think life will ever come from the chem lab. I think I will win before 2010.
Yes, I would say that the computer model is a valid instance of bona fide life. I find it difficult to believe that the environment inside a digital processing system could be made to match even remotely the infinitely parallel, unlimitedly interconnected physical world. I think that no matter how close the original simulation would be to physically-instanced life, they would drift over time and become quite different. It would in fact be hard to determine what "same results" might be, as finer measures in physical space are going to be very different than in virtual space.
Hello Clab, well, I tend to believe that this is a harder problem than we might think. Many computer viruses are constructed by devious engineers and their "evolution" is therefore assisted. Also, viruses of the digital sort are really much, much simpler than chemical viruses which can be molecules of 100,000 atoms or more. Indeed, many biologists feel that chemical viruses are not alive at all, merely molecular machinery hijacking a ride.
Perhaps the ecosystem of computing spaces is too arid in simplicity to allow much to evolve. One of my areas of interest is avatars-- human beings represented in large scale multi user spaces, for games and socializing. Perhaps in these spaces, with millions of objects, code, and users competing we will find a fertile ground for true digital biota to emerge?
We need a biologist or other person who has real knowledge of the complexity of living things and their environments to take a hard look at what we hold up to be analogous to life in the digital petri dish.
Remember, even Tom Ray does not believe his oft featured Tierra represents anything close to a living system.
Hello Alexander, thanks for these thoughts. You are right that the judging of the bet would be a sociological exercise. Two years ago the biota.org group carried out several months of listserv discussions on what a reasonable definition of life might be. We got somewhere then the discussion devolved into hair splitting and a great amount of detail. Someone commented at the time that "well, you will just know it when you see it" speaking about the emergence of bona fide digital biota. So when it came time to phrase this bet, we decided on requiring that a few folks with a reputation at stake stick their necks out to declare that the artificial life in question was no longer artificial. Undoubtedly a great deal of technology would have to exist fo this to occur, but indeed the Earth itself is a great tower of technology supporting life as we know it.
I visited Richard Dawkins two years ago and found him to be very supportive of our concept for this Bet, but his is in the minority of professionals in the study of living systems and evolution. All that said, some years in the future it may be very apparent to many that "something biological is happening in the networks" regardless of whether biologists take it seriously. However, someone with Dawkins' credibility and true knowledge of chemical living systems has to mark the official passing of our understanding of what can be alive into a whole new realm. Elsewise would anyone really believe it?
I wasn't talking about a computer virus. I was talking about a real biological one, recently created from scratch by DNA sequence building machines, and which was able to infect target cells. One of the nice things about biological life, versus any computer simulation, is that it "goes divergent" on its own and reproduces. Our simulations can't create more hardware to run themselves on (yet), but chemical life (for want of a better term) can.
My point was that biology was simply putting things into pigeonholes with little understanding until computer and engineering systems theory came along to provide an idea-space about how complex systems interactions could be understood. At that point, biology exploded and became more science and less simple taxonomy. At any rate, with our better understanding of systems, gained by whatever means, we can now (or will soon) design a lifeform simple enough to be made with available sequencing technology, which can only handle a certain level of complexity before the error rate makes it impractical.
The simplest existing lifeforms seem to carry a lot of evolutionary excess baggage that is not needed to produce a lifeform "at all", but rather makes further (and made previous) evolution easier. Our first stumbling tries need not have this baggage to be real lifeforms. They might thus be within our reach sooner than many may think.
Just asking - would von Neumann machines, which (in theory) are cellular automata which can reproduce from raw materials found in their environment, satisfy the conditions of the bet?
I think that if a von Neumann machine is ever built and made to work, it will have to appropriate mechanisms from life, such as an operating system closely approximating the function of nucleic acids in biota and devices which work as mitochondria and the endoplasmic reticulum do in living cells. Of course, such a machine will have to work outside the lab in order to be judged successful, I would think.
Any other thoughts?
I thought there were supposed to smart people here.
Let's up the bet. I bet a possibility is circuman. Find out why I say it and tell me why I'm wrong.
Gary
I up the bet and say it will definitely be circuman and I am the one that coined it.
gary
Sorry for my past posts. I'm not sure what I was thinking.
What does it mean to be artificial. How we view this new life will determine it's name. Biological and robotic? A latin term for cyborg? Something more seems necessary.
We describe ourselves as"wise men." How will we describe artifical life?
perfect, enhanced, mixed, infinite, networked, grouped, social, downloadable, renewable, transferable, digital, plastic, ah maybe plastic man. Man which is mouldable, able to be copied, modeled, and adapted? Adaptable man? homo plasticus?
homo simulatus?
I'm not sure why the artificial life emerging from human technology has to exist on a machine. I expect that one day humans will create artificial life in the form of a cell that bears its own taxonomic classification. Carlos Bustamante has publicly declared an interest in adding genes to a mitochondrion with the purpose of creating a new free-living organism. It is also forseeable that someday humans will create life by forming liposomes in the presence of a synthesized genome and a compliment of purified proteins.
I think that the concept of artificial life is one that will never be adequately understood. We will be looking for 'life as we know it' within our networks, and will fail to identify or accept life as we don't know it.
Consider a similar question. Is a galaxy alive?
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